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Skeet

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Hello there persons.

Right...coz I am an ADSL Engineer, I know stuff.
The stuff wot I knows is this.
Friday saw the release of a new ADSL Product, which should be available to all of you, getting your Fatpipe over a BT Phone line.

ADSL Max...represents "new thinking" from the boffins at a well know Telecoms provider.

If you get on to your service providers, some may have links advertising it (I think Pipex have).

What it is, is this.

A Router will be plopped in your house, and over 10 days it has a free rein over your bandwidth...after 10 days, it sets your line up at teh maximum reliable rate, and continues at that speed.

So..those of you who are on .5, 1, or 2 Megabit services, depending on your line quality...could be getting up to 8Meg...yup...8 Meg.

Obviously, teh maximum rate is dependent on you living on an exchange, or nigh on...but..most people should be able to get 4meg.

For anyone who knows anything about teh technical side....you will know, that to maintain a circuit, you need a good Signal to Noise Ratio (Margin), you can see this by looking into your Router...its the downstream side you look at, but you get two readings..one is Loop Attenuation, teh other is SNR.

The Attenuation is basicaly your line length from teh exchange and is roughly 10dB per Km, an example would be 54dB (meaning your maximum at teh moment would be 1Meg)..and teh lower teh better, the faster you can go.

SNR, is teh quality of teh circuit..teh higher teh better..so around 20dB is good.

Now...the boffins have decided, that on ADSL Max, a good SNR would be 3dB...barmy I kinow, but...there you have it.

Also, they use something called interleaving,..which means that if your line has some grief..any lost packets are plopped back in, as if they never went missing...and you notice jack.

Oh...teh other good bit, is that unlike current circuits, teh Upstream is also improved..so...rather than teh 256k at teh moment...its can go upto around 800k...which is nice.

Anyway...thought I would let you guys know so you can start badgering your SP's for it.:D
 

Skeet

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Yeah...I was going to say, this is not ADSL2.
I am not sure when that will generally be available...but, it is up to 24Meg.
I trialled it and had to buy a new hard drive for my PC, because I left it on all day and night downloading masses of...erm...National Geograpic Documentarys.
 

SwissTony

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Skeet said:
Hello there persons.

They use something called interleaving,..which means that if your line has some grief..any lost packets are plopped back in, as if they never went missing...and you notice jack.
Interleaving will add 20-40ms round trip for bits sent and received so is not great for online games.
I beleive that BT are putting all connections on auto mode so if you line needs interleaving, it will kick in and if it doesnt it will turn off.
Some ISPs will allow you to have it perminantly on or off from the start so if your into gaming it may be worth asking your isp what they can do.

Anywho, 8 meg on its way for me,
Downstream :
Noise Margin : 29.0 dB
Attenuation : 3.0 dB
Output Power : 22
Upstream :
Noise Margin : 11.5 dB
Attenuation : 11.0 dB
Output Power : 9

If you want to find out out more about adsl and your ISP, have a visit here ADSL Guide
 

Skeet

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SwissTony said:
Interleaving will add 20-40ms round trip for bits sent and received so is not great for online games.
I beleive that BT are putting all connections on auto mode so if you line needs interleaving, it will kick in and if it doesnt it will turn off.
Some ISPs will allow you to have it perminantly on or off from the start so if your into gaming it may be worth asking your isp what they can do.

Anywho, 8 meg on its way for me,
Downstream :
Noise Margin : 29.0 dB
Attenuation : 3.0 dB
Output Power : 22
Upstream :
Noise Margin : 11.5 dB
Attenuation : 11.0 dB
Output Power : 9

If you want to find out out more about adsl and your ISP, have a visit here ADSL Guide

Heh..you either live next door to an Exchange or your running APts2 on your laptop with that Upstream ATT and SNR!!:D

Yeah...didnt want to mention about interleaving and gaming :rolleyes:
 

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live about 300 meters from the exchange as the crow flys.
Always had a great connection even though some of our connectors at the exchange are corroded (quality BT)
Just waiting on BT to give my ISP(nildram) a date for installation.
 

dip

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telewest and 10 meg line!! w000t
well .. its not 10meg all the time but it holds out at 800kbps easily

but at home i've only got the option of adsl =(
cable all the way IMO =D