The manufacturer's name will be on the label on the tank, amongst all the facts and figures. If it features the word STAKO anywhere on the label, it's made by Stako 
Stakos Illegal in Millennium Series!
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As i have no bias in my head so far, i think i'll take the opportunity to defend the idea of the lining.How does air get inbetween the two layers?
Surely they are airtight?
Also, if you read the side of the bottle, it does say:
Directions for use: Do not fully empty, close the cylinder valve, close the shut-off valve, to be filled only with air (atmospheric gas) according to EN 12021."
Wouldn't the bit in bold stop any air from getting inbetween the two layers??
I don't know about the finer details of the bottles, but any fibre bottle will have an optimum shape when fully pressurized. I'd imagine the reason you're not supposed to fully empty them is that the plastic needs some pressure to keep it in a suitable shape so that when you fully pressurize the bottle, it will have the same optimum shape that allows you to reduce weight, yet not compromise safety.
I have never bought a Stako bottle so I don't really know, but I find it hard to believe they sell them pressurized, right?
So that "do not fully empty" is:
a) referring to vaccuum (as in do not empty the bottle below athmospheric pressure) or
b) bullsh1t
Pick one
(If they sell them with some pressure > athmospheric, then discard this post ;D)
So that "do not fully empty" is:
a) referring to vaccuum (as in do not empty the bottle below athmospheric pressure) or
b) bullsh1t
Pick one
(If they sell them with some pressure > athmospheric, then discard this post ;D)
The usual reason to not fully empty pressure vessels is to avoid contamination getting into the tank, or excessive condensation being formed (as happens when decompressing inadequately dried air.) This is a generic guideline which applies to any pressure vessel.
The chances are if you had this system brand new and it has a crossfire reg it will be a SCI (structual Composite Industries) Cylinder and will be no problem.
A bad patch?? In 4 different countries (that we know of!) and for about 1/2 year..... Yeah - I witnessed one in january here in Denmark, totally new yet it had already starting cracking up after a few fillings!!!!
I will have to ask how big a patch you guys think we are talking about?! It sounds ridicilous - there is problems with stako bottles, end of story!
Seriously - how can any of you doubt that there is a problem? And how can any of you think so "light" on it? You are CRAZY if you keep on using your bottles before this matter is solved and there is solid proof on them being 100% safe!
We are not talking about loosing up to 150 £ here, we are talking about the risk of loosing your life if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time!
Exactly my thoughs, and to those people who cry like children "blah blah im not spending more money on a new tank cos i cant handle the barely noticable ammount of extra weight", Personally i think its completely immature. Sure, go ahead fill Stako's, but its becoming more and more obvious this isnt just effecting 1 batch, when a stako does explode (and im betting its only a matter of time) lets see your responces then?
Personally, I HOPE stakos get banned across the UK, everything that people are saying makes it more and more obvious they just arnt upto the job.
what is the UKPSF stance on this,
if you are a member you are covered with liability insurance, which includes air bottles.
if you are a member you are covered with liability insurance, which includes air bottles.
